September 18, 2025

Scott Geller – The Staffing Business Cash Flow Death Trap (And How to Escape)

In this episode, James Kennedy sits down with Scott Geller, CEO of Path Predict LLC and fractional CFO, to unpack the nuts and bolts of running and scaling staffing firms. Scott explains why staffing is really two sales pipelines (candidates and clients), how cash flow can get crushed by weekly payrolls and 30–90 day receivables, and the practical levers owners can pull – pricing, margins, funding – to stay liquid and grow. He also shares a venture story: guiding a COVID-era sports-tech startup past a so-so VC offer to a stronger strategic exit by building runway, discipline, and options.
The Gross Profit Podcast
The Gross Profit Podcast
Scott Geller - The Staffing Business Cash Flow Death Trap (And How to Escape)
Loading
/

Show Notes

In this episode, James Kennedy sits down with Scott Geller, CEO of Path Predict LLC and fractional CFO, to unpack the nuts and bolts of running and scaling staffing firms. Scott explains why staffing is really two sales pipelines (candidates and clients), how cash flow can get crushed by weekly payrolls and 30–90 day receivables, and the practical levers owners can pull – pricing, margins, funding – to stay liquid and grow. He also shares a venture story: guiding a COVID-era sports-tech startup past a so-so VC offer to a stronger strategic exit by building runway, discipline, and options.

About Scott Geller

Scott is the founder and CEO of Path Predict LLC, a fractional-CFO firm launched in 2020. He partners with owner-led companies – especially staffing firms under ~$30M revenue – to install finance discipline, engineer profitability, and navigate fundraising or exits. Outside the spreadsheet, he’s a veteran host of Louisiana-style crawfish boils.

What You’ll Learn

  • Staffing, demystified: Why every staffing business is two pipelines (talent + jobs) and how to balance them.
  • Cash is king (and tricky): Managing weekly payroll vs. 30–90 day collections; when to use a line of credit vs. factoring – and when to get off it.
  • Unit economics that matter: Bill rate, pay rate, and margin – how a few hundred basis points make or break the model.
  • KPIs for staffing: DSO, gross margin %, operating expense per internal head and per placed worker, and cash runway.
  • Negotiation in constrained markets: Setting a walk-away point when dominant buyers (e.g., insurers/VMOs) squeeze rates.
  • From VC to strategic exit: Scenario planning, toll-gates, and building leverage before you fund – or sell.
  • Scott’s 4-pillar CFO framework: Operational Excellence, Cash Optimization, Profitability Engineering, and Capital Allocation.

Episode Highlights

  • “A staffing firm can have 10 internal employees and 200 people on assignment – that’s why revenue can look big while cash is tight.”
  • “Factoring buys time, but it also buys a smaller margin. Know when to wean off it.”
  • “Pricing that moves margin from 21% to 22% can fund your whole finance function.”
  • “Never negotiate without a walk-away. If a rate cut crosses your red line, be ready to say no.”
  • “Owners make better decisions when they’re looking at cash forecasts and scenarios, not gut feel.”

More About Scott’s Role

At Path Predict, Scott serves as a fractional CFO focused on four pillars:

  1. Operational Excellence – clean books, right tools, right roles;
  2. Cash Optimization – 13-week and monthly forecasting, funding strategy, yield on idle cash;
  3. Profitability Engineering – client/job/unit margin analysis and pricing moves;
  4. Capital Allocation – planning, metrics, and investor/creditor readiness.
    Typical clients are founder-led staffing firms (<$30M revenue) that want clear numbers, tighter cash control, and a plan to scale – or exit – without hiring a full-time CFO.

The Gross Profit Podcast

More Episodes

Merushka Chetty

Lindsay Webber – What Makes Someone Perfect for Audit Work?

In this episode, James Kennedy sits down with Lindsay Webber (Omnipro) to unpack what modern audit really looks like – why it matters far beyond “ticking boxes,” and how audits help organisations (especially those handling public, donor, or regulated funds) prove compliance, protect reputation, and avoid nasty surprises. Lindsay shares her unusual “almost adopted by Pauly Shore” story from a small-town South African hardware store, her rapid rise to Senior Lecturer at Rhodes University at 24, and what she’s seeing now in the world of audit, regulation, and CPD for accountants.

Listen Now »
Merushka Chetty

Stephen Newland – Travel, Debt Freedom & Building a Fractional CFO Business

In this episode, James Kennedy sits down with Stephen Newland, founder of Money Path, to unpack what it really takes to keep a nonprofit financially healthy as it grows. They cover Stephen’s unusual early-career work at Delta Air Lines, what he learned running a financial education program at a large church, and why money is never “just numbers on a spreadsheet.” From cashflow forecasting to grant reporting to board-ready financial clarity, this episode is a practical guide for nonprofit leaders who want better control without burning out.

Listen Now »
Merushka Chetty

Anna Tiomina – AI Finance Revolution: How CFOs Are Saving 75% of Their Time

In this episode, James Kennedy sits down with Anna Tiomina (Blend to Balance) a former CFO who turned a career curveball into a new mission: helping finance teams adopt AI responsibly and effectively. They unpack how AI is already changing finance work (reporting, commentary, document review, and more), why finance leaders shouldn’t wait for the tech to “mature,” and how to keep human controls in place so speed doesn’t come at the cost of accuracy.

Listen Now »